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medikamen · Jul 29, 2005, 04:11 PM // 16:11

If my demands aren't met i'll kill an NPC per hour

1) Don't automatically share gold that is picked up during missions, wait until the end of the mission to split up the gold, leavers would think about twice before disconnecting and this would give some sort of compensation to the party that has to deal with - 1 player

2) Give to Alesia some survival instincts

3) Ok, we got the point, farming is bad... Would it be too unreasonable to at least increase good drop rates in the Ring of Fire Islands or in deep parts of Lornar's Pass? (i dare anyone to solo there!)

4) Diminish the number of times europe needs to win a battle in the HoH to get the favor, we are seriously getting our asses kicked out there by America and even more so by Korea. Favor not switching a lot sucks for Europe and leaves no real challenge for Korea and America who are always fighting each other

Overall, GW is still an excellent game, doesn't mean it can't be improved!

Add on some demands and lets go slay some NPCs !!!

edit: if an admin could put this in the Sardelac Sanitarium, i accidentally misplaced the thread

Sorena Mascar · Jul 29, 2005, 04:15 PM // 16:15

I think that #1 is a great idea. Make it also save the weapons where you can see them but there not actually yours until the mission has ended.

I hate when people drop when you start something. Especially at the very beginning for no apparent reason.

Not sure about the other things you mentioned....... (I kinda want America to have favor 24/7 lol)

Sorena Mascar

Wings of Illusion · Jul 29, 2005, 04:15 PM // 16:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by medikamen

If my demands aren't met i'll kill an NPC per hour

1) Don't automatically share gold that is picked up during missions, wait until the end of the mission to split up hte gold, leavers would think about twice before disconnecting and this would give some sort of compensation to the party that has to deal with - 1 player

2) Give to Alesia some survival instincts

3) Ok, we got the point, farming is bad... Would it be too unreasonable to at least increase good drop rates in the Ring of Fire Islands or in deep parts of Lornar's Pass? (i dare anyone to solo there!)

4) Diminish the number of times europe needs to win a battle in the HoH to get the favor, we are seriously getting our asses kicked out there by America and even more so by Korea. Favor not switching a lot sucks for Europe and leaves no real challenge for Korea and America who are always fighting each other

Overall, GW is still an excellent game, doesn't mean it can't be improved!

Add on some demands and lets go slay some NPCs !!!

this is not a question.. or an answer so please move this to the off-topic threads.

Shadowdaemon · Jul 29, 2005, 06:41 PM // 18:41

1) awesome idea!!! i think ti should be all loot though

2) also a good idea

3) oh i can get just about anywhere solo, and i would rather drops werent improved, i like to actually work for money on here, and i like to be able to sell things

4)you can always switch to american servers if you think we got it so good, but it seems to me like europe and korea has favor quite a bit

aB- · Jul 29, 2005, 07:12 PM // 19:12

All loot might be a pain. You pick up an AWESOME weapon, worth 100k+, then your group can't finish the mission. What a bummer.

Mithie · Jul 29, 2005, 07:16 PM // 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by aB-

All loot might be a pain. You pick up an AWESOME weapon, worth 100k+, then your group can't finish the mission. What a bummer.

If your group fails the mission, you all return to the outpost, and you get your loot/gold anyway.

Iceciro · Jul 29, 2005, 08:22 PM // 20:22

You just have to stick with your group until the mission ends - in failure or success. I like it.

provoko · Jul 29, 2005, 08:31 PM // 20:31

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Originally Posted by Wings of Illusion

this is not a question.. or an answer so please move this to the off-topic threads.

Someone messed up on moving this thread. This obviusly is for suggestions forum "Sardelac Sanitarium." Mods should learn to read before they actually move/close/delete something.

I like #1, more gold for the people that stay in a mission that worked for it. But its almost impossible to do, what if you fail, no gold. If gold is shared when you fail, then someone that wants to leave might fail the mission on purpose just to get his gold. So it's a bad idea since it can't be implimented.

Mavrik · Jul 29, 2005, 08:40 PM // 20:40

what about for that poor soul in the group who gets all these good drops but can't get them till the end of the mission and then sees an ERROR 77 or something as his internet crashes... oops guess he isn't getting that stuff now huh. I'll all for looting the dead once the fight is over.

Lagg · Jul 29, 2005, 08:41 PM // 20:41

1) Potentially a good idea, but with all the Err=7 (and maybe the implentation of a votekick system soon), this can turn into a downright nightmare.

2) Bah, henchies.

3) Anet is going a certain way with nerfing drops and I can understand them on some level. To decrease drops just means that the heavy farmers will keep on spending larger and larger amounts of time farming to still get their drops, and the casual farmers will now almost never get something worthwhile. They're still doing a good job fighting inflation like this.

As it stands now:

heavy farmers = very rich
casual farmers = poor

Increase drops:

heavy farmers = insanely rich (money becomes worthless and you pay in stacks of 250 ectoplasms)
casual farmers = rich (in money, which is now useless anyway)

4) Europe needs to start sucking less.

Yen-lo-wang · Jul 29, 2005, 08:56 PM // 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lagg

4) Europe needs to start sucking less.

If that wasn't a senseless flame I don't know WHAT is...

Europe simply doesn't have either of the two ingredients that America and Korea has:

1.) An INSANE percentage of gamers in the population.

and

2.) An INSANE percentage of those gamers who take their crap way too seriously.

I'm more of a Euro-type gamer myself: I like to play the game for the sake of playing it and having fun, and it's better yet when friends are on, not to go out and own everyone in sight.

Lagg · Jul 29, 2005, 09:01 PM // 21:01

Relax man, I know we Euros don't suck.

We just need to buy more Koreans. Problem solved.

Also yes, Europe has good players, but well, everyone seems to move to American servers nowadays. Which are getting cluttered. So any chance we had to win against both the American and Korean juggernauts are getting even more reduced.

stumpy · Jul 29, 2005, 09:05 PM // 21:05

amendment

5) ... for the love of the game just make alesia a smiter

6) make dunham do anything useful ... hell pick his nose in the corner jsut something .... at least amusing or he will never get an invite

7) put a gored engine block on the words WTS and WTB ...

8) track sellers and buyers accounts and force them into one district.... always...

if these demands are not met ... i will join in the terroristic attempt and drop death nova on the victims followed with EoE

johnnylange · Jul 29, 2005, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by medikamen

If my demands aren't met i'll kill an NPC per hour

1) Don't automatically share gold that is picked up during missions, wait until the end of the mission to split up the gold, leavers would think about twice before disconnecting and this would give some sort of compensation to the party that has to deal with - 1 player

2) Give to Alesia some survival instincts

3) Ok, we got the point, farming is bad... Would it be too unreasonable to at least increase good drop rates in the Ring of Fire Islands or in deep parts of Lornar's Pass? (i dare anyone to solo there!)

4) Diminish the number of times europe needs to win a battle in the HoH to get the favor, we are seriously getting our asses kicked out there by America and even more so by Korea. Favor not switching a lot sucks for Europe and leaves no real challenge for Korea and America who are always fighting each other

Overall, GW is still an excellent game, doesn't mean it can't be improved!

Add on some demands and lets go slay some NPCs !!!

edit: if an admin could put this in the Sardelac Sanitarium, i accidentally misplaced the thread

1. No!
2. Agree!
3. n/a
4. Europe wins alot...suck it up.

johnnylange · Jul 29, 2005, 09:32 PM // 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumpy

amendment

5) ... for the love of the game just make alesia a smiter

6) make dunham do anything useful ... hell pick his nose in the corner jsut something .... at least amusing or he will never get an invite

7) put a gored engine block on the words WTS and WTB ...

8) track sellers and buyers accounts and force them into one district.... always...

if these demands are not met ... i will join in the terroristic attempt and drop death nova on the victims followed with EoE

5. Maybe...
6. n/a
7. No.
8. Pointless

Ultimate_Gaara · Jul 29, 2005, 11:12 PM // 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by medikamen

If my demands aren't met i'll kill an NPC per hour

1) Don't automatically share gold that is picked up during missions, wait until the end of the mission to split up the gold, leavers would think about twice before disconnecting and this would give some sort of compensation to the party that has to deal with - 1 player

2) Give to Alesia some survival instincts

3) Ok, we got the point, farming is bad... Would it be too unreasonable to at least increase good drop rates in the Ring of Fire Islands or in deep parts of Lornar's Pass? (i dare anyone to solo there!)

4) Diminish the number of times europe needs to win a battle in the HoH to get the favor, we are seriously getting our asses kicked out there by America and even more so by Korea. Favor not switching a lot sucks for Europe and leaves no real challenge for Korea and America who are always fighting each other

Overall, GW is still an excellent game, doesn't mean it can't be improved! Add on some demands and lets go slay some NPCs !!!

edit: if an admin could put this in the Sardelac Sanitarium, i accidentally misplaced the thread

1) Well ive never had anythign stolen from me so i wouldnt know.. but it sounds better.. except when my internet craps out on me

2) Whats wrong with Alesia [Tank Henchmen]?

3) Nope... botters are already out of control, we dont want to help them do we?... plus farmers are lame too

4) i agree the favor is a little 1 sided half the time and normaly id gladly come over to help... but one problem... i have no pvp skill, so dont blame me for taking the favor

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumpy

amendment

5) ... for the love of the game just make alesia a smiter

6) make dunham do anything useful ... hell pick his nose in the corner jsut something .... at least amusing or he will never get an invite

7) put a gored engine block on the words WTS and WTB ...

8) track sellers and buyers accounts and force them into one district.... always...

if these demands are not met ... i will join in the terroristic attempt and drop death nova on the victims followed with EoE

5) A smiter monk sounds nice, but dont take away my tank!

6) Change his name to [Hex Henchmen], ive never seen him enchant me

7) I like it... but only in the general chat

8) Sounds ok.. but a little rude..

quanzong · Jul 30, 2005, 12:39 AM // 00:39

I solo RoF, if your good like me you run to WRECKAGES, or CHESTS.

Ristaron · Jul 30, 2005, 07:01 AM // 07:01

1. Just the gold, not the drops. Err=7 complaints would skyrocket like Aunt Jemima after she sat on a pin.
2. Why not just teach Alesia how to heal, she'd actually be of use then.
3. Ring of Fire yes, Thunderhead Keep ensures very few people who bother to bot get passed the South Shiverpeaks part of the game.
4. Europeans win plenty, they just need to stop getting bored after the first few rounds in tombs. My teams have been wasted by Euros plenty of times.

5. Alesia would be inept as a smiter as well.
6. Just rename Dunham "Dood [Stoner Henchman]" and give him a backpack full of weed. He never does anything anyways.
7. Just put a RED GORED ENGINE block on the wankers who spam in caps. If you're so desperate for attention brought to your item it's likely that nobody is messaging you when you type civilly because the item sucks.
8. Just force the caps-RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs into one district called the 'reject district', and have the words "The caps lock key is only 3 microns away from the 'a' key where your pinky finger rests in standard touch-typing. Do everyone a favour and tap that, then rip it off the keyboard" spam the channel every 30 seconds.

My additions:
9. Add a votekick system for districts where honest people can team up against @#$%holes and boot them from the district.
10. Give little Thom Healing Signet. Or at least make him use it. Stefan is FAR superior to the man with the last letter people are never sure of - simply because the French Fighter has the intelligence to heal himself.
11. Make Claud cast Well Of Blood more.
12. Hell, just increase the IQ of all the henchies please. Right now they're only slightly better than the average n00b.

medikamen · Jul 30, 2005, 07:04 AM // 07:04

To all the guys who disapprove why my first idea (sharing gold at the end of the mission), i never said anything about the rest of the l00t. Sharing objects is fine. Since the amount of gold dropped during a mission is fairly limited, but sufficient to make players want to stay until the end of the mission (even if they fail), leavers would think about twice before beaming out after the first pet dies. If a player really has to leave, i think that the rest of the party deserves a little compensation... and come on, even though if they guy s comp bugs, i don't think losing 300 gold will put an end to his world

Lost · Jul 30, 2005, 08:48 AM // 08:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithie

If your group fails the mission, you all return to the outpost, and you get your loot/gold anyway.

So then if someone decides to abandon their party, they will be sure to grief the mission into failure first so that they collect their goods...

Jul 29, 2005, 08:41 PM // 20:41	#10
Lagg Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: W/	1) Potentially a good idea, but with all the Err=7 (and maybe the implentation of a votekick system soon), this can turn into a downright nightmare. 2) Bah, henchies. 3) Anet is going a certain way with nerfing drops and I can understand them on some level. To decrease drops just means that the heavy farmers will keep on spending larger and larger amounts of time farming to still get their drops, and the casual farmers will now almost never get something worthwhile. They're still doing a good job fighting inflation like this. As it stands now: heavy farmers = very rich casual farmers = poor Increase drops: heavy farmers = insanely rich (money becomes worthless and you pay in stacks of 250 ectoplasms) casual farmers = rich (in money, which is now useless anyway) 4) Europe needs to start sucking less. Last edited by Lagg; Jul 29, 2005 at 08:48 PM // 20:48..

Jul 29, 2005, 09:01 PM // 21:01	#12
Lagg Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: W/	Relax man, I know we Euros don't suck. We just need to buy more Koreans. Problem solved. Also yes, Europe has good players, but well, everyone seems to move to American servers nowadays. Which are getting cluttered. So any chance we had to win against both the American and Korean juggernauts are getting even more reduced. Last edited by Lagg; Jul 29, 2005 at 09:03 PM // 21:03..

Jul 29, 2005, 09:05 PM // 21:05	#13
stumpy Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canucklehead BC, Canada Guild: Advanced Necro Undead Society	added demands ... amendment 5) ... for the love of the game just make alesia a smiter 6) make dunham do anything useful ... hell pick his nose in the corner jsut something .... at least amusing or he will never get an invite 7) put a gored engine block on the words WTS and WTB ... 8) track sellers and buyers accounts and force them into one district.... always... if these demands are not met ... i will join in the terroristic attempt and drop death nova on the victims followed with EoE

Jul 29, 2005, 04:11 PM // 16:11	#1
medikamen Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lyon, FRANCE Profession: Mo/Me	Ok people this is a hostage situation If my demands aren't met i'll kill an NPC per hour 1) Don't automatically share gold that is picked up during missions, wait until the end of the mission to split up the gold, leavers would think about twice before disconnecting and this would give some sort of compensation to the party that has to deal with - 1 player 2) Give to Alesia some survival instincts 3) Ok, we got the point, farming is bad... Would it be too unreasonable to at least increase good drop rates in the Ring of Fire Islands or in deep parts of Lornar's Pass? (i dare anyone to solo there!) 4) Diminish the number of times europe needs to win a battle in the HoH to get the favor, we are seriously getting our asses kicked out there by America and even more so by Korea. Favor not switching a lot sucks for Europe and leaves no real challenge for Korea and America who are always fighting each other Overall, GW is still an excellent game, doesn't mean it can't be improved! Add on some demands and lets go slay some NPCs !!! edit: if an admin could put this in the Sardelac Sanitarium, i accidentally misplaced the thread Last edited by medikamen; Jul 29, 2005 at 07:04 PM // 19:04.. Reason: damn i misplaced it :/

Jul 29, 2005, 04:15 PM // 16:15	#2
Sorena Mascar Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: none Profession: R/E	I think that #1 is a great idea. Make it also save the weapons where you can see them but there not actually yours until the mission has ended. I hate when people drop when you start something. Especially at the very beginning for no apparent reason. Not sure about the other things you mentioned....... (I kinda want America to have favor 24/7 lol) Sorena Mascar

Jul 29, 2005, 06:41 PM // 18:41	#4
Shadowdaemon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Anderson IN USA Guild: Ecks Di [xD] Profession: W/N	1) awesome idea!!! i think ti should be all loot though 2) also a good idea 3) oh i can get just about anywhere solo, and i would rather drops werent improved, i like to actually work for money on here, and i like to be able to sell things 4)you can always switch to american servers if you think we got it so good, but it seems to me like europe and korea has favor quite a bit

Jul 29, 2005, 07:12 PM // 19:12	#5
aB- Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005	All loot might be a pain. You pick up an AWESOME weapon, worth 100k+, then your group can't finish the mission. What a bummer.

Jul 29, 2005, 08:22 PM // 20:22	#7
Iceciro Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Surface Warfare and Tactics Profession: E/N	You just have to stick with your group until the mission ends - in failure or success. I like it.

Jul 29, 2005, 08:40 PM // 20:40	#9
Mavrik Forge Runner Join Date: May 2005 Location: Alaska	what about for that poor soul in the group who gets all these good drops but can't get them till the end of the mission and then sees an ERROR 77 or something as his internet crashes... oops guess he isn't getting that stuff now huh. I'll all for looting the dead once the fight is over.

Jul 30, 2005, 12:39 AM // 00:39	#17
quanzong Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere cold Guild: The Followers of the Messiah Profession: W/Me	I solo RoF, if your good like me you run to WRECKAGES, or CHESTS.

Jul 30, 2005, 07:01 AM // 07:01	#18
Ristaron Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Guild: Legion Of Valhalla Profession: E/	1. Just the gold, not the drops. Err=7 complaints would skyrocket like Aunt Jemima after she sat on a pin. 2. Why not just teach Alesia how to heal, she'd actually be of use then. 3. Ring of Fire yes, Thunderhead Keep ensures very few people who bother to bot get passed the South Shiverpeaks part of the game. 4. Europeans win plenty, they just need to stop getting bored after the first few rounds in tombs. My teams have been wasted by Euros plenty of times. 5. Alesia would be inept as a smiter as well. 6. Just rename Dunham "Dood [Stoner Henchman]" and give him a backpack full of weed. He never does anything anyways. 7. Just put a RED GORED ENGINE block on the wankers who spam in caps. If you're so desperate for attention brought to your item it's likely that nobody is messaging you when you type civilly because the item sucks. 8. Just force the caps-RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs into one district called the 'reject district', and have the words "The caps lock key is only 3 microns away from the 'a' key where your pinky finger rests in standard touch-typing. Do everyone a favour and tap that, then rip it off the keyboard" spam the channel every 30 seconds. My additions: 9. Add a votekick system for districts where honest people can team up against @#$%holes and boot them from the district. 10. Give little Thom Healing Signet. Or at least make him use it. Stefan is FAR superior to the man with the last letter people are never sure of - simply because the French Fighter has the intelligence to heal himself. 11. Make Claud cast Well Of Blood more. 12. Hell, just increase the IQ of all the henchies please. Right now they're only slightly better than the average n00b.

Jul 30, 2005, 07:04 AM // 07:04	#19
medikamen Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lyon, FRANCE Profession: Mo/Me	To all the guys who disapprove why my first idea (sharing gold at the end of the mission), i never said anything about the rest of the l00t. Sharing objects is fine. Since the amount of gold dropped during a mission is fairly limited, but sufficient to make players want to stay until the end of the mission (even if they fail), leavers would think about twice before beaming out after the first pet dies. If a player really has to leave, i think that the rest of the party deserves a little compensation... and come on, even though if they guy s comp bugs, i don't think losing 300 gold will put an end to his world